The Great War - What's it all for?

[Verno]

You're hamstrung by Canon.

Maximals aren't slaves. And the Great War is over. A Maximal can do whatever they want to do. If they didn't want to be on that ship, then they wouldn't have been. This isn't Starship Troopers where one has to earn their citizenship with a stint in the military.

Rattrap - Probably escaping some kind of criminal charge for not so reputable transactions.

Cheetor - Youth, excited by the prospects of adventure.

Rhinox - Old hand, looking for a quiet ride around the Universe in peace.

Optimus Primal - 1st time Captain of his very own Starship.

None of this is 'canon' but can be assumed by what we learn of them and of their decisions during the course of the show.

Stasis pods always seem to be rigged with Transwarp cells when they're 'modified', but I'm of the opinion that they are already fitted with engines for planetary entry/landing and take-off. They sure as hell wouldn't all crash land - we've seen what happens when they do.

Rampage's was probably specially built as a prison. There is nothing in canon to say it was and there is nothing in canon that says that it wasn't, so canon, which you hold so much stead in, fails a lot. You've gotta take some creative license from time to time.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

Maximals aren't slaves. And the Great War is over. A Maximal can do whatever they want to do. If they didn't want to be on that ship, then they wouldn't have been. This isn't Starship Troopers where one has to earn their citizenship with a stint in the military.

Wouldn't it be interesting if Goki was right, though? Between that and the Protoform X experiment it kind of puts a different slant on the Maximals, who come off looking more like the Animated Autobots. It'd also kind of explain BW Megatron's urge to 'free' the Predacons from Maximal rule.

If Blackarachnia did have a pre-Earth personality I'd be inclined to put it as a sassier, snarkier, more sultry version of Prime Arcee, eager to get off boring Cybertron. But that's just IMO, and if we're looking at canon then BM Blackarachnia is the most likely bet.
*shudder*

[Hursticon]

Wouldn't it be interesting if Goki was right, though? Between that and the Protoform X experiment it kind of puts a different slant on the Maximals, who come off looking more like the Animated Autobots. It'd also kind of explain BW Megatron's urge to 'free' the Predacons from Maximal rule.

An interesting suggestion, sort of like a repeat of what apparently transpired in the IDW G1 Universe i.e. Megatron leading a group of bots out of oppression.
(I like that idea )

If Blackarachnia did have a pre-Earth personality I'd be inclined to put it as a sassier, snarkier, more sultry version of Prime Arcee, eager to get off boring Cybertron. But that's just IMO, and if we're looking at canon then BM Blackarachnia is the most likely bet.
*shudder*

I concur, *shudder* , but I like the idea of her being akin to a darker TF: Prime Arcee.

[Verno]

If Blackarachnia did have a pre-Earth personality I'd be inclined to put it as a sassier, snarkier, more sultry version of Prime Arcee, eager to get off boring Cybertron. But that's just IMO, and if we're looking at canon then BM Blackarachnia is the most likely bet.
*shudder*

Shuuders all round.

But if we must tip-toe this line of canon, 2 points come to mind.

1. BM showed that a Transformer could have one personality transposed over another. eg. Thrust over Waspinator. Jetstorm over Silverbolt. Tankor over Rhinox.

2. Whatever BW Megatron's Transmuter device was that was used on Rhinox was, it turned Rhinox into a Predacon, and was an altering of his personality. some facets, namely his schemingness and such, were hightened. Others, like his compassion, were lessened or removed.

I would think that a Predacon Shell Program would have a similar effect to the Transmuter in its altering of personality. So I think you're right about BW Blackarachnia being sassy, snakey and sultry originally, but with the Shell Program over the top, she had a few personality tweaks as well.

-Edit-

Oh and BW Megatron's actions were never for the greater good of the Predacons, it was always about himself, his own power.

[Bartrim]

I believe the great war started over an argument about what was considered canon for their favourite show

[Hursticon]

I believe the great war started over an argument about what was considered canon for their favourite show

Sure sounds like the Kicker huh?... *crickets*

[GoktimusPrime]

You're hamstrung by Canon.

Evidence FTW dude. You can make up fan-theories all you like, but without evidence to verify it then it holds little canonical validity. Some fan-theories are better than others; i.e. ones that are based on evidence but cannot be absolutely/conclusively proven by it (much like say scientific theories).

I'm not going to agree or disagree with fan theories... I have little interest in discussing them myself. (but if you and others wanna talk about it, go for it. ).

Rampage's was probably specially built as a prison. There is nothing in canon to say it was and there is nothing in canon that says that it wasn't, so canon, which you hold so much stead in, fails a lot. You've gotta take some creative license from time to time.

There's this thing called Burden of Proof. Basically if you want to claim that something can be true, then it is your responsibility as the claimant to provide evidence that it's true. Otherwise you can't hold claim that it is. Again you're welcome to your own fan theories.

[Verno]

There's this thing called Burden of Proof. Basically if you want to claim that something can be true, then it is your responsibility as the claimant to provide evidence that it's true. Otherwise you can't hold claim that it is. Again you're welcome to your own fan theories.

I'm all for reading between the lines.

Primal's line in Bad Spark - "somewhere far, someplace barren". As you said, why would they give the Stasis pod engines? You can draw the conclusion that it was a specialised pod for holding him. We know it's true because it's bigger than a normal stasis pod. Its a temporary prison at best. They knew he'd break out of it, but as long as he was somewhere he couldn't cause any trouble when he did, then all was well.