Henkei Sideswipe, Tankor, And Bluestreak Pics

[kup]

I still want MP greenscream..
Takara had made it good until they "fixed it" with that macross designer

I loved the original Prototype but hated the modifications made later. Thankfully most if not all of them can be rectified by removing some pieces and rearranging them.

FFN and Jaydisc would have liked to have seen it because I had a huge dummy spit about how Takara fouled up so badly on MP Starscream. Of course I ignored the Takara release and waited for a better release which Hasbro provided.

It was all in good 'fun' but it did annoy me to be singled out like that and misrepresented, specially when many of those quotes are not directly attacking Hasbro with some of them being as Critical about Takara. All those quotes are directed at something specific which I hated not the whole company.

[Pulse]

Classics v Henkei... *sigh*

Maybe this debate should go down the same path as Unicron v Death Star...

[sifun]

I like to use the word hate.. because when I hate somehting it usually means just that. Like I Hate Movie Ironhide and his ugly face.

Even though the differences in paint apps are just chrome, I do like some of deeper colours on the sun/swipe mould. Looks so much better.

[jaydisc]

Like I Hate Movie Ironhide and his ugly face.

Ironhide rules! I hate you!

[STL]

I believe the correct ohrasse is "Total Ownage"

But I do want to express that there is a increasingly small yet vocal bashing of Hasbro that I am finding a irksome even at the best of times...

Jeez, We've got another STL on our hands...

Hold on, If you haven't got 4-5 duplicates of Skyfire then you're just an "STL Pretender!"...

Hey, I occupy a very unique place in this asylum! If u movin' on my turf, I'm gonna so crush u with my bare hands...

Like I Hate Movie Ironhide and his ugly face.

Like how you're gonna have an ugly face by the time I'm through with you.

[kup]

I'd recommend considering the possibility that it is you who is changing as opposed to Hasbro.

I disagree with the notion that Hasbro has not changed its practices for the worse, if I have changed or not that is irrelevant.

Bad quality and cost cutting its pretty black and white, specially when compared to older releases. It also doesn't look good when another company is doing it better.

Hasbro has decreased in quality because if it hadn't I would not even be considering Takara's releases and the only difference between me as a kid and now is that I have the means to get a better toy online at a competitive price instead of begging my parents to buy me whatever is on the shelves. However I am sure that if I had a Universe Sunstreaker and my friend showed me his evenly colored Henkei Sunstreaker with chrome and proper paint apps, I would be able to tell which one is the better toy.

[MV75]

I disagree with the notion that Hasbro has not changed its practices for the worse, if I have changed or not that is irrelevant.

Bad quality and cost cutting its pretty black and white, specially when compared to older releases. It also doesn't look good when another company is doing it better.

Hasbro has decreased in quality because if it hadn't I would not even be considering Takara's releases and the only difference between me as a kid and now is that I have the means to get a better toy online at a competitive price instead of begging my parents to buy me whatever is on the shelves. However I am sure that if I had a Universe Sunstreaker and my friend showed me his evenly colored Henkei Sunstreaker with chrome and proper paint apps, I would be able to tell which one is the better toy.

I agree with this. Looking back to when I got back into collecting (cybertron), it was good to me. I didn't really notice anything out of place.

But then going on, it seemed to really start with classics. I really noticed that the paint apps on some toys were sub-par (bumblebee for example). Plus the minicons went straight to the crapper so fast they were teflon turds. Plus we got incorrectly assembled toys. But they (the toys I got), were still good enough to me to not even bother with the takara releases, I was content enough with the Hasbro ones.

Then the movie toys came along, we start to see crooked paint apps, and crap like allspark blue, etc. And the too thinly applied paint I noticed too much on the armorhide repaint, the yellow parts were badly applied.

Next we get animated toys. I start seeing messy paint apps and globs of paint where it shouldn't be just dribbled over the place. Plus we have reports of substandard quality in the construction.

Now we get to universe/classics, it's glaringly obvious how bad the Hasbro versions are. Also it's crap how they use names and release stuff like that "armada minicon set", and also tons upon tons of legends repaints. But at least those legends are good moulds from cybertron. But for the deluxes, the Hasbro ones look so bad that I am now bothering with the Takara ones.
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[griffin]

Cleaned up this topic so that it stays on topic. Discussion of the value-for-money of Hasbro or Takara toys to Australian fans is going a little off topic, but is okay as long as it relates to this topic's Henkei/Classics subject.

My (humble) opinion - if one company charges us more (up to 3 times more) for essentially the same figure, then they will need to give us better quality to make up for it. If not, then they should be prepared for extra scrutiny or expect us to embrace the cheaper (TakaraTomy) options, reguardless of what each individual fan thinks is the better looking version. That in itself is a whole different discussion.

[autobreadticon]

why does the henkei lambor show no mounted supercharger on the back of the vehicle?

[Paulbot]

why does the henkei lambor show no mounted supercharger on the back of the vehicle?

Because to be G1 accurate Sideswipe shouldn't have it, only Sunstreaker did.