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[Verno]

I can find no mention of currency on Cybertron. Does anyone care to enlighten me with any info they have on the subject.

[Sky Shadow]

I can find no mention of currency on Cybertron. Does anyone care to enlighten me with any info they have on the subject.

In the UK comics, Shanix was a universal currency; in the G1 cartoon there were Galactic Credits and in Animated, Swindle and Lockdown trade in weapons and upgrades. But most of the time Transformers deal in energon and fuel.

[SkyWarp91]

In the UK comics, Shanix was a universal currency; in the G1 cartoon there were Galactic Credits and in Animated, Swindle and Lockdown trade in weapons and upgrades. But most of the time Transformers deal in energon and fuel.

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Yep, basically it - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformer_economics

[griffin]

True. BW happened about 70,000 BC. I'm sure we could find a way to make it work though...

Ahhh...

We get the Ark and Nemesis to travel back in Time through some kind of temporal anomoly to prehistoric Earth before they crash in the 1st place. They can happily sleep for a few million years undisturbed.

That way it's not as long a gap on Cybertron between Prime and Megs dissapearing and then reappearing for G1.

Fixed!

Original Biocards for Beast Wars toys, written up before the cartoon was done, had BW set in post-gen1 "present day" (suggesting they were existing Gen1 characters)... so a story could still be written in the same continuity, but the BW characters may have come a lot later, or be a short-lived story arc of Gen1 characters taking on beast forms for a while for some reason (and revert back for another, plausible, reason).

[Verno]

Definately doable. Restart the old 'truck, not monkey' debate.

But I'm only trying to make the timeframe work better. It's like the writers of G1 had no idea how long a millenia was, let alone a century.

We can still have Soundwave take over the Decepticon forces when Megatron and the Nemesis dissappears with the Ark, but instead of him being incharge for 4 millions years (don't quote me on exact time, I'm using 4 million as an example) he's only incharge for a century or two at the most.

Nemesis and the Ark leave Cybertron in say... 1800AD (our time). They go through a wormhole/temporal anomoly thing and are taken back to several hundreds of thousands of years ago and crash on Earth, into the mountain and lay dormant until it explodes in 1985 and start G1.

Everything works...?

[Sky Shadow]

We can still have Soundwave take over the Decepticon forces when Megatron and the Nemesis dissappears with the Ark,

I'm guessing you mean Shockwave (since Soundwave is usually on the ship with Megatron.)

Nemesis and the Ark leave Cybertron in say... 1800AD (our time). They go through a wormhole/temporal anomoly thing and are taken back to several hundreds of thousands of years ago and crash on Earth, into the mountain and lay dormant until it explodes in 1985 and start G1.

This seems unnecessary and too derivative of Beast Wars. Also, one of the poignant aspects of the G1 comics is that Optimus Prime crashed the Ark on Earth was because it had no signs of life and thus he was responsible and guilty for bringing his war to Earth. Even assuming that Prime's idea of life is pretty narrow, it makes him even more ignorant if he decides that a planet covered in roads and the occasional monolith is uninhabited.

[Verno]

I'm guessing you mean Shockwave (since Soundwave is usually on the ship with Megatron.)

Yes, sorry. Shockwave. I had the 'Are All Dead' picture in my head.

This seems unnecessary and too derivative of Beast Wars. Also, one of the poignant aspects of the G1 comics is that Optimus Prime crashed the Ark on Earth was because it had no signs of life and thus he was responsible and guilty for bringing his war to Earth. Even assuming that Prime's idea of life is pretty narrow, it makes him even more ignorant if he decides that a planet covered in roads and the occasional monolith is uninhabited.

Well he's still responcible for bringing the war to Earth, that doesn't change.

If I was under attack from the greatest warship in Transformers history, I wouldn't care where I crashed, as long as it was far away from it.

And the start of the BW has always been reminicent of the start of G1:

2 ships come hurtling out of the sky and crash miles apart on the Earth. Happens in both G1 and BW. If we add a wormhole to G1, it simply makes the mirroring and connection between G1 and BW stronger.

[Sky Shadow]

If I was under attack from the greatest warship in Transformers history, I wouldn't care where I crashed, as long as it was far away from it.

He doesn't crash to get away from a warship, he crashes because the Decepticons have boarded the Ark and he wants to end their lives and save the universe from the Megatron. It's pretty psychotic if he crashes into an inhabited planet to do.

[Verno]

The episode synopsis on the TF Wiki says "Both ships spin out of control, crashing on nearby Earth." Doesn't sound like Prime had much of a choice.

And just watching a quick clip on youtube, Prime's last words before the Ark crashes into Earth is "We're out of control" and he grabs the controls, presumably to try and take back control of the ship and steer away.

So ultimately, in this telling of the crash, Prime is as powerless as everyone else to stop The Ark crashing into Earth.

Is there a different telling somewhere? I'd be interested to read/watch it.

[Verno]

Haha, and that 4 million year timeframe was right. Looks like some of these G1 details are sticking.