2012 Hall of Fame awards has begun

[GoktimusPrime]

It's not all that hard to understand dude, BW Megatron is a valid nominee as he isn't G1 Megatron whereas all other Megatons are simply reinterpretations of G1 Megatron.

RiD Megatron isn't a reinterpretation of G1 Megatron. He was originally an entirely separate character called Gigatron in Japan, but Hasbro renamed him Megatron for RiD.

People are voting for "Wheeljack" - does that mean Armada Wheeljack and that guy in DOTM who may or may not have his name are included too?

They could even be voting for Energon Downshift (who was called Wheeljack in Super Link ) - then could that, by extension, expand to G1 Downshift? And if G1 Downshift seems too obscure a character to be considered for the Hall of Fame, let's not forget the whole "Erector" incident. <shudder>

[griffin]

It should come down to the individual character image that Hasbro uses on the night or on their website. If the Inductees from the first two years only had their Gen1 character images/art used (for the non-BW ones), then it should make it less confusing to just be those specific characters of those names are being inducted.

Perhaps they wanted to avoid having a dozen Primes and Megatrons padding out the HOF lineup after the first few years... if so, they need to re-define the criteria soon to allow for multiple character names in the HOF. And since they choose 3 of the 4 anyway, if they are wanting to make the roster as varied as possible in terms of names, then they can make sure original iconic names make up 3/4 of the Inductees each year.

[UltraMarginal]

That's a pretty good ppoint Griffin,
I also think that they weren't quite sure what they wanted to do with it in the first year or two, thye might still not be sure. lack of direction leads to lack of definition which is where we are right now.

generally though, it seems that apart from Prime and Megatron there seems to be a lean towards the G1 interpretation of a chracter unless that character just didn't exist in G1, like Dinobot and Waspinator and this year Bulkhead.

I voted for Wheeljack so far, mainly with the G1 interpretation in mind.
I would put in a secondary nomination for Bulkhead and Prowl if we were voting like the Australian political system...

[Hursticon]

RiD Megatron isn't a reinterpretation of G1 Megatron. He was originally an entirely separate character called Gigatron in Japan, but Hasbro renamed him Megatron for RiD.

My bad, that is one that I indeed knew about but didn't define/specify - Bad Hursty, bad!

The question has been put forward though on TFW; "Should RiD/Car Robots Megatron be 'shoe-horned' in with BW/BM Megatron?".
My response was that a good argument could perhaps get him included, but that I would not be the one able to provide that argument.

@UltraMarginal: I think Wheeljack has a good chance of getting into the final Official short-list of nominees, so best of luck , he'll make a good auto-entry next year after BW Megatron wins the title (Hopefully) this year.

[GoktimusPrime]

The question has been put forward though on TFW; "Should RiD/Car Robots Megatron be 'shoe-horned' in with BW/BM Megatron?".

I wouldn't include him. Lumping RiD Megatron with BW Megatron isn't any better than lumping him with G1 Megatron - in the end they'd still be lumping together two entirely different characters who happen to be called Megatron.

[Paulbot]

The question has been put forward though on TFW; "Should RiD/Car Robots Megatron be 'shoe-horned' in with BW/BM Megatron?".
My response was that a good argument could perhaps get him included, but that I would not be the one able to provide that argument.

RID Megatron is a Predacon too with a beast mode. He's got a bit more in common with BW Megatron because of that than with G1 Megatron.

I like the argument that BW Megatron is a different robot who existed in the same universe as G1 Megatron as a valid reason to count them separately.

But the awards are about "brand names" not "characters" and the name Megatron has been awarded.

[Hursticon]

I wouldn't include him. Lumping RiD Megatron with BW Megatron isn't any better than lumping him with G1 Megatron - in the end they'd still be lumping together two entirely different characters who happen to be called Megatron.

Exactly why I can't provide the convincing argument.

But the awards are about "brand names" not "characters" and the name Megatron has been awarded.

Thing is though, this is Beast Wars Megatron and that seems to cover both bases in Hasbro's eyes; else they wouldn't of given him the thumbs up for nomination.

[Paulbot]

Thing is though, this is Beast Wars Megatron and that seems to cover both bases in Hasbro's eyes; else they wouldn't of given him the thumbs up for nomination.

I don't think Hasbro has given any characters the thumbs up for nomination have they? Or has an official shortlist been announced now? Otherwise it is just fan sites listing ideas.

[Hursticon]

I don't think Hasbro has given any characters the thumbs up for nomination have they? Or has an official shortlist been announced now? Otherwise it is just fan sites listing ideas.

Apparently according to TFwiki; Hasbro gave the go ahead for fansites to vote on BW Megatron & Optimus Primal being short-listed for submittal as potential Official Nominees, as Hasbro views them as separate entities from Megatrons & Optimus Primes.

[Ode to a Grasshopper]

TFW2005 has chosen Megatron...yesss.

And on a not-entirely unrelated note...http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...homper/3860604